#37: Why do I do what I do when I know what I know

In this episode, I join Dr. Paul Jenkins on his radio show, Live on Purpose Radio. Dr. Paul says, “The most common lament I hear in my psychology practice is this question: Why do I do what I do, when I know what I know?” For this topic, Dr. Paul calls together a brain trust to take on this question.

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that I want to have the happiness I want
to have the wealth I want to have all
that stuff and then it’s like well what
do I got to do and they just jump into
the process and for them it’s a negative
response to have to let their brain
process the difficulties they might face
the challenges that come up
it’s almost taboo for them to think how
I might have to deal with problems their
mind is set to let’s just be positive
let’s think positive about this and
there’s a lot of wealth and positive
thinking but it is not negative to count
the cost of what you’re about to do and
to make sure that you are willing to go
through that because what ends up
happening as they start that action most
individuals this is by my experience the
first serious obstacle that comes up
tosses them right out of the water or it
becomes a process of wearing them down
four or five six seven trials I’ve had
enough I’m out except for the person as
Andy Andrews puts it that has a decided
heart the person that has taken that
time to really count the cost of this
and know what this means to their lives
are they gonna really do this and accept
that then it’s not a battle every day to
make another decision see once they’ve
made one decision to do this and they’ve
done it the right way you don’t have to
wake up in the next anything am I gonna
do this okay yes I’m going to do it the
next day am I gonna do this yes I’m
gonna do it the next day I don’t know
maybe they don’t waive that decision
that’s that’s a very tiring process to
go through that wears you out
the other point on the knowledge side is
if you look at those that are willing to
do the work they’re willing to go
through all that and work hard I know
these people too they interpret the
knowledge different I think Bruce Lee
put it best with this one I loved his
his analogies because he’s a martial
artist and it always applies to some
kick wounds I’m flying all right well
Bruce Lee said that he cannot give you
of his cup meaning he can’t show you how
he does what he does if your cup is full
of your own opinions or to put that in
more modern terms if you’re so full of
your own opinions if you’re so caught up
with the way that you see the
you’re not open to a new perspective and
that’s what it takes
some people think as soon as you prove
to me that this is different knowledge
then I will empty some of my cup and put
it in but the truth is you’ve got to let
that out and become a student coachable
and at that point you’re open to some
new information so how do we put these
two together is the real question mm-hmm
yeah so say how do you tell people or
what does counting the cost mean when
they don’t know perhaps what it’s going
to require this is always interesting to
me that several books coaches and so
forth teach the principle of meditation
or they teach it as a strategy when the
truth is the meditation for me or the
taking a moment in your life to get
clear that is nothing more than a
vehicle of what you’re really doing for
instance I’ll put this into an example
if you have a goal to get something and
you and you really want that goal you
know if this is a goal that you’re
really gonna do by measuring it if the
goal promotes you or if you’re promoting
the goal and what I mean by that say you
set a goal and you want something really
bad and you wake up the next morning and
you have to convince yourself to go get
it you probably don’t have a goal that
really resonates with you that you’re
gonna go do if you have a goal that you
wake up in the morning you’re like ooh
what I got to do and the goal is
promoting you the goal is picking you up
and you found one that really fits
inside your heart and so for me this
meditation and getting clear on yourself
that’s not the strategy that’s that’s
just what ends up happening the real
part that you’ve got to say I want to do
this is taking a moment of your life
whatever it takes whatever works for you
whether it’s yoga or or meditation or
going for a drive or just getting away
from your environment turning the
cellphones off and taking a moment to
get clear with yourself
praying whatever your form of getting
clear is that has to happen
you have to take a moment and look at
this how does it apply to my life and
you’re gonna know if it’s bogus if it is
just some material thing that’s out
there and it really doesn’t apply right
now to your life if for instance you
want some big huge mansion and you’re
living in a shack you know what you
maybe got some other challenges maybe
that is important to your life right now
you know but my experience is most the
people I work with when we get right
down to it money itself is not on their
real list but it’s a shock to them to
find that out know it’s what they think
the money will do for them and that’s
what you’ve got to identify and get
clear right and it has to resonate with
some greater purpose for you and as
you’re talking about that Shane was
thinking you know there are times when
it’s not that I wake up in the morning
and then think oh yeah I’ve got this
goal it’s that this goal wakes me up
right and it’s four o’clock in the
morning right it’s like get it up come
on let’s go it’s like my dog wanting to
go for a walk that’s wiggling all over
the place that’s when you know you’ve
got a goal that really works with your
heart and then you probably naturally
are going to start taking time to think
about it
you’re gonna start thinking how does
this work how am I gonna do this instead
of you sitting down oh that’s right my
coach told me I gotta meditate so I’m
sitting there okay I’m meditating I’m
thinking you’re practicing a strategy
without working on a root cause right
you know and I tell people that you have
to fall in love with the goal and
they’ll say well how often do you have
to read your affirmation or your goal
statement or whatever is like that and
I’m thinking you know if you’re in love
with the goal you’re not going to have
to remind yourself to think about it how
many times did you have to remind
yourself to think about your fiancee
mm-hmm you couldn’t help but think about
them and that’s what a goal with this
kind of power has now I remember
watching Rudy if you remember the
football oh yeah and at the time in my
life when I watched that I loved it I
was empowered by his passion for his
goal but I came away from it really
disappointed because the thought that
went through my head is I wish I could
be that passionate about something and I
started looking for a drink because
nothing I wanted at that time had
kind of power for me and I didn’t know
how to create that I didn’t know how to
find that and maybe when we get back
I’ll tell you what I learned great
that’d be great thanks listen we were
just left hanging the edges of our seats
Leslie you’re talking about this this
passion just having this this desire to
have something that compelled you to
move and to have that kind of passion
yes your story I forgot what I was going
to say well you know like I said I had
watched Rudy I was inspired by it but I
was frustrated because I wanted to feel
that way about something and every time
I thought I had my eye on a goal that I
could really love a week later the
passion was gone it wasn’t getting me
out of bed it wasn’t inspiring me or
motivating me to do anything I was just
all I could do just to want to get out
of bed and that’s not how you feel when
you really have your I locked on a goal
that you can put your heart behind and
one thing I learned was that there is a
true principle that says seek and ye
shall find and it was at that moment
that I started really looking for a
dream with that kind of pull for me
mm-hm and essentially what it came down
to was beforehand I was looking for
goals but all of a sudden I started
looking for a goal that could create
that kind of passion in me and here this
was setting a goal to find a goal that’s
a goal see what I’m saying the principle
works on any level so I started looking
and what came wasn’t a goal that had
that kind of passion for me instead what
came my way were experiences that took
me through a new kind of set of
challenges that I wasn’t really excited
about having and yet it carved out a
place in my heart
for the goal that I could love and so
you know I started looking for something
that would create that kind of passion
what came from that seeking was a run of
experiences that were very difficult
very very challenging and started
leading me to ask new questions and
started putting me in a place that when
I finally got a glimpse of what the goal
could be it was the one I
would love and you know one of the
things I did know is I wanted to make a
difference I knew that I wanted to do
something that would improve lives and
at the time when I had this question
when I had watched Rudy my son he was a
new baby had had heart problems when he
was born
and so at four days old he went into
Primary Children’s and had heart surgery
and the whole experience gave me a whole
new compassion for people who stay at
the Ronald McDonald House like we did
and for people who have children with
very severe health problems and when he
came out okay on the other side of that
I thought I have a passion I want to
make a bunch of money so that I can
donate it to the hospital and a week
later it wasn’t there anymore and I
thought what is wrong with me that I
can’t have a goal that just drives me
you know and that’s when I asked this
question I want to find something that
can make a difference that really drives
me and so it took me through experiences
that would give me empathy with a new
tool of people in the world and then
once I had come out on the other side of
that and I got answers on how to solve
my own problem I had so much passion in
helping people who had experienced what
I had experienced come through on the
other side like I had this driving
passion to help others overcome what we
had overcome that was bigger than us
that was something that kept me awake at
night that was something because I knew
the pain and I knew the solution and
sometimes you can’t have a solution that
you can offer add value to the world and
bring the solution unless you’ve
experienced the pain first and at the
time I was watching Rudy I hadn’t
experienced enough pain yet you know
what I’m not saying that to tell
everybody that they need to have a lot
of pain before they will find their
passion but you’re going to find that a
passion for you is going to stem from
your unique experiences and I don’t
think we need to be afraid of this pain
because if you’ll be honest with
yourself you know you’re probably
already experiencing some pain yeah
exactly and it’s really tempting
sometimes to feel that pain and then to
conclude that you have failed and I see
people doing this all the time with oh
crap I must be doing it wrong because
look at how much pain I’ve gotten my
and look at all this what if you could
reframe that to see it as the middle
part of a really inspiring story and as
you get through that then you have the
resources to really move forward and
truly have an inspiring story and
haven’t you met people who are in the
middle of really really awful horrible
situations who are going through them
with an intention already in place to
share what they learn on the other side
of it mm-hmm I mean I’ve met people who
are in the middle of really atrocious
atrocious situations but they’ve already
determined that one day they’re going to
speak to people on how to get through
this even though they hadn’t quite
figured out themselves yet what a great
story this is gonna make yeah I’ve
actually asked clients before please get
through this because the world needs
your story the world needs this
testament to whatever problem you’re
going through mm-hmm I was thinking
while you were mentioning that of
something that happened to me once when
I was kind of a tentacle in my career at
least I felt like it was at that time I
was starting to have a lot of success in
my definition of it and was enjoying my
work and I was invited to speak at some
larger events you know thousands of
people not just a few hundred and I
thought that was a great thing and one
of my first time speaking from a large
crowd as a couple thousand people in the
room and I got up and what I said made
him laugh they were taking it serious
and and everything worked and I got off
the stage and I just felt great and a
lady came up to me and she said boy
you’re amazing I wish I could be like
that someday that comment that she made
to me made me realize that I sent the
wrong message to her she’d learned that
that type of accomplishment is even
further away from her rather than seeing
it closer to her so when we talk about
people working hard we got to be careful
not to distance people who are getting
on the path they feel like they’re
having some success not to distance
those kinds of things from us when I
think of some of the greatest examples
in my life and most of them are dead now
Gandhi traces these kind of people you
know people that have had a huge impact
on the world one thing that I love to
study I can give you a book reference if
want to study an amazing life study the
life of Jacque loose Iran a Frenchman he
was a blind man who had an incredible
life throughout the world war two but
another one is Gandhi Gandhi amazes me
the reason I like to study these kinds
of lives is because as the world would
put it they had nothing and they
demonstrated incredible power or what
we’re talking about today incredible do
they made things happen their actions
like when we talk about working hard and
not accomplishing much their actions
accomplished incredible amounts and
that’s why I like to study them I also
like to study people that the world
considers that they didn’t have anything
before they started because it removes
any temptation to believe that they
received some kind of financial
assistance and that was why they had
success or whatever it’s a pure story
well Gandhi is a very interesting story
because it’s one of the cleanest stories
I know of somebody demonstrating actual
power versus worldly power and we get
caught up in trying to know how to do
this what to do how to put this
knowledge together because a lot of
times we’re making a mistake of thinking
that we have to demonstrate worldly
power we have to put on a persona that
were more than we really are
we can’t have that kind of real estate
portfolio until we have millions coming
from something else we can’t have that
many income streams until we’ve had a
lucky break through those are all
demonstrations of worldly power and they
are the weakest form of power true power
comes from a divine power this is a
spiritual form here but that’s how it is
yes it is it’s a divine power and if you
want to access that kind of power then
you have to understand that it comes
through practice of faith the way that
faith is truly defined faith is defined
with work but work on purpose as dr.
Paul’s thing is called live on purpose
Gandhi was living on purpose he did not
have to ask himself before he went and
got beat up by a mob if it was worth it
or not is this really worth it for me to
go through this
he didn’t have to fast for seven days a
couple times and almost kill himself to
demonstrate a principle to people he
didn’t have to ask himself is this worth
it he understood why he was doing it he
knew this was a thing that he could
accomplish in this life and he counted
the cost before he did it and no matter
what trial came up he went through it
with faith and courage and that’s what
it takes for us to to go through our
challenges trials whatever if we are
connected with what we’re doing why were
doing it and we feel like this is
something that we are sent here to do it
really doesn’t matter what trials are
gonna come up it doesn’t matter if the
economy is falling around it doesn’t
matter if your health takes a turn for
the worse you’re gonna have faith and
courage and you’re gonna have a great
attitude yeah you’re gonna go through
hard times that’s part of it but the way
that you do that the way you do what you
do are you a do do you are you what do
don’t do do do do yes I’m not sure if
we’re gonna be able to market that you
know what as you’re talking about this
so really that perspective is so
powerful that this adversity or this
challenge that I’m facing right now is
the middle part of a very inspiring
story and if you have that perspective
you’re not at the end you’re at the
middle and that’s a huge huge difference
and I would challenge that people that
are are in that place right now if
they’re feeling like they’re burden
they’re challenged they just haven’t
taken a moment to count whether this is
worth it or not it might be they might
step back look how this business I’ve
been trying to build for five years it’s
just all over the place and I’m stressed
maybe they didn’t step back and just
decide is this worth it or not if they
do and they go back they may gain the
power that they need to get through that
or they might find out I don’t have
anything like this and it’s time to make
a change
I’d like to even touch on the point that
was made on work that is on purpose and
just work and in my lingo it goes back
to the jackrabbit factor and the whole
definition of what that means if you see
a dog chasing a rabbit that can’t see
the rabbit you’d think the dog was crazy
but on the next
all of that if you see a dog chasing a
rabbit and finally catching one and you
realize that all of those actions were
for the rabbit
you’re not going to go out there and
just jump and bark and do all the same
work expecting a rabbit’s gonna appear
that’s work without purpose you have to
see the rabbit before the work make
sense so work on purpose here’s the
thing you guys we have one segment left
we’re coming up on the end of this
particular episode for me it’s really
important to get some kind of take home
from this thing and so I want to invite
our brain trust here to share what are
the take-home messages from this so what
you know we started out with this
question why do I do what I do when I
know what I know why don’t I do what I
know we all know more than we’re doing
and we’ve talked about a number of
different concepts and just to kind of
grease the sled so I’m gonna review a
few of them that have stuck out with me
because I’m taking notes here I need
some help and one of these is magic do
versus magic it’s kind of silly but I’m
a silly guy so magic do versus magic
gooo be willing to persist and continue
and for me that has to do with realizing
you’re in the middle part of an
inspiring story and keep that
perspective have some confidence that
you can and will change
don’t let the giant intimidate you and
we didn’t really talk about giants but I
was who’s kind of funny about a week and
a half ago I took one of my son’s out to
the west desert in Utah and we were
looking for bugs for his ninth grade
biology bug collection okay I was
looking for some of those big old Mormon
crickets couldn’t find any but we did
find a tarantula and we gathered that
thing up and we brought it back and I
posted a picture on my email this last
week and it’s almost the size of a
dollar bill okay and that’s a huge
that’s a giant spider right compared to
what compared to other spiders it’s
really not a giant compared to me I
could squish it easily but when you
compare it to other spiders it’s huge
right so we looked at the Giants in our
life and it’s always compared to what
I’ve got here also work on purpose and I
appreciated your comments about that
just before the break Leslie is it just
work or is it work on purpose towards
some particular end and that makes it a
construction project and then count the
cost like what you had to say about that
Shay those are some of the take homes
that I’m identifying I want to give you
guys some time to just kind of summarize
what’s sticking out for you well as you
go through those notes that you’ve
written I can’t help but think that
somebody listening to this is gonna feel
like yeah I’ve heard all that mm-hmm be
persistent
is that new original guys things work on
purpose these things you know we’re
looking for some new kind of information
we’re looking for something that really
isn’t there and if I could write the
best book in the world unfortunately I
don’t think it would be a best-seller
but i but I maybe I could get some
coaching from Leslie on that but if I
wrote the best book in the world I
believe it would go like this it would
have a nice cover maybe a flower or some
cool picture on it you would open it up
there’d be one page and in the middle of
that page it would say have faith you
turn the page over and say the end and
then it would say it’s up to you that’s
probably too many words
well that means something to you at
different points when you hear these
things sometimes it’s like okay I’ve
heard that I’ve heard that I’ve heard
that I’ve heard that but depending on
where you’re at you’re gonna hear it
differently and someone might say to you
be persistent or count the cost and also
you’re going to see the value of it
you’re gonna have a relationship with
the value of what this means so one of
the greatest things that I can say kind
of setting up for a conclusion is it’s
important that you go through whatever
filters you have in front of you
continue to go through those filters
because this information is true whether
it works in your brain right now or not
it is true and in your heart you know it
is this is what we’re talking about you
know what is right you know this
information why aren’t you doing stuff
about it continue to go through that
because these filters will remove
themselves they’ll come off piece by
piece you might have a hundred to get
through you might have two to get
through but the point is when you get
through that all of a sudden you’re
gonna see it and it’s not one of these
things all I get it now
someone comes up to me and they say oh I
get it my response usually back is
actually you don’t die so what do you
get oh I get how to be successful no you
don’t yeah are you being successful
right now no but I’m going to okay you
don’t get it it’s not a pursuit of
getting it you don’t need to get it what
you need to do is continue and when you
do get it when your life is the way you
enjoy it you’re enjoying day by day now
you can say you get it that’s great but
you don’t need to have this preamble
this early victory saying oh I get it
all now I finally got the pieces
together and I know do it why do you cut
yourself short
it’s almost as though we want to say
look I’m really not interested in life I
just like to be a billionaire and have
everything I want I’d like to skip the
whole life part of this get to the thing
well you know good luck with that one
have fun there but I believe that if you
really want to enjoy and have happiness
no matter what’s going on I always laugh
at people that I shouldn’t say I laugh
at them I I find it amusing that they
buy into the story that circumstances
predict their emotions right because the
truth is you do have power over those
things and so the greatest take-home I
can give is continue continue to read
continue to study continued to ponder
continue getting through those filters
because you’ll get there
you really will if you’re persistent and
you’ll be able to see everything but if
it’s on purpose and you’re going in the
same direction
you’ll get where you’re going be careful
where you’re going yeah I’d have to echo
that you know you’re talking about what
would be the take home and essentially
mine would be the same message maybe
from a different angle and I just go
back to the combination luck with all
the tumblers in it there might be a
hundred tumblers that have to fall into
place
but once you get a nugget once you have
an epiphany or something that maybe you
heard something on this program that
answered a question specific to your
situation right now just a little nugget
that helps you continue that helps you
have the courage and the stamina to just
take one more step and you can know that
just because it didn’t all solve
everything today that tumbler is in
place
you’re ready for the next one to fall
into place and it is a step by step and
I don’t even know who is that I think it
was Napoleon Hill that said that you
will meet with success in uncommon hours
how does that go I can’t but it’s one
day you’re going to be at a place where
you’ll look back and you’ll see that all
of those pieces had to fall into place
in that order for you and here you are
and you’ll discover that you’re happy
anyway without the success that you were
striving so violently for and yet once
you’re happy where you are that’s when
the success really starts to fall into
place for you and you’ll realize well
you could have been happy with or
without it and look what a gift here it
is
I think we’re deceived often to think
that our life is to pursue this illusive
happiness wherever it is that I’m all
about trying to find that happiness and
we don’t understand that life is
happiness that when you make that choice
it’s like what you were saying Shay that
the circumstances just don’t matter that
much and the most inspiring stories I
know have that as a central theme look
at all of this stuff and despite all of
this stuff I found happiness I found
peace I found joy and if you could
experience that what else matters and
the money and the stuff and the success
you know all of that can be part of the
picture but don’t be deceived that that
is the end goal if you can choose
happiness that defines success in my
mind that is the definition of success
you’re gonna choose happiness and you
realize that you have the power to
choose that and the truth is you have
all that you need right here in this
moment you really do
it’s just when we get thinking about
what we don’t have for next week that we
think we need we’re already projecting
ourselves into a place of lack who are
in reality today in this moment I’ve had
food I’ve had a roof over my head I have
air to breathe I have relationships we
have all that we need right now to be
happy in this moment that’s where it
begins no
that’s right I think those are some
pretty good take homes I hope that all
of you who are listening find your own
take home whatever it is that ringing
with you is the most important thing
that we have said or introduced and even
if we didn’t say it if you thought it
and if you are inspired to have some
kind of an insight that’s the most
important thing for you run with that
and persist continue now I don’t have
the power to make any of you succeed but
if I can help you to think of the things
and to get yourself to do the things
that will bring that success into your
life that’s what I want to do Leslie
thank you for joining us and great Shay
thank you so much thank you very much
we’ll look forward to seeing you guys
later on go out there and live on
purpose
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this is doctor Paul the shrink who
expands your life today I had an idea
that I think is really going to play out
nicely
I have called together a brain trust I
guess we can call it that I’ve been
talking a little bit lately with a few
of my associates talking about a
particular problem that we all face or a
challenge or a very common obstacle
maybe to success and prosperity and
before we get into that topic I’m gonna
introduce our brain trust – yeah I’ve
got in studio with me
Shane Larson hello everybody hey welcome
back thank you it’s been a little while
since you’ve been on live on purpose
radio not exactly true you’re on almost
every week that’s right when the world
of ideas reports right so you are the
idea guru right and that’s why you’re
part of this brain trust today Shane
glad to be you got it turned on you
ready to go honor yes and then on the
phone lines we have a national
best-selling author Leslie householder
hello everybody
hey welcome Leslie thank you so glad to
have you with us – and our listeners are
going to be very familiar with you by
now because we quote you all the time
and that book the Jackrabbit factor and
another one that you’ve published called
hidden treasures have been so powerful
in my life personally but in in the
lives of a lot of our audience and so
we’re just thrilled to have you with us
again today thank you so much and you
are part of this brain trust too because
here’s the thing let me just set up this
topic and then we’ll have some
discussion in the last couple of years
I’ve become a little bit of a junkie for
personal improvement and inspirational
content and seminars you know that kind
of stuff and I just can’t get enough of
it and I go to these events or I listen
to a CD set or a program and I get all
excited and I think wow that is so cool
and it’s just resonating with me you
know it’s just ringing and then I go
home and I kind of get back into some of
my old habits and my old patterns and
sometimes things don’t change
as much as I thought they would while I
was sitting there in the seminar now am
I just weird or is this happen a lot
well I can tell you from my coaching
background this is a core question that
seems to come up through everybody in
different language they don’t only say
why can’t I do what I want to do but it
through different language it always
comes up that they have desires they
actually know the answers you know often
they do yeah coach you know it can
reveal answers to people and it’s like
yeah I know that but help me do it yeah
and a good coach focuses on helping
people do things so it comes up all the
time and I feel like the challenge there
the the solution to this challenge is
epic proportions in anyone’s life I mean
we’re talking about a real problem here
why can’t I do what I want to do I know
what to do I know I’ve got to be a
better person I know I’ve got to help
these people more I’ve you know I want
to get rid of my fear I know I want to
be a better husband a better provider a
better this and that why don’t I just go
do it what stops me what’s all that
little that stuff that keeps me from
doing that waking up in the morning and
just being someone who just goes and
does it
mm-hmm that’s the question and the value
to getting this answered in your life is
incredible yeah no I’d like to I just
you know you described the scenario of
attending a seminar feeling really great
feeling like there’s changes taking
place inside of you and then coming home
and very quickly going back into the old
habits and wondering if it was even
worth the trouble of going in the first
place and that was my life all through
the 1990s especially is we were seminar
junkies my husband and I were going to
we attended at least a hundred seminars
over those years and the reason we kept
going is because while we were there it
gave us enough expansion we felt the
growth we felt something happening
inside that was good and then when we go
home and we feel that go away we thought
well then we just got to get back to it
again and go again and and and you know
you start questioning whether or not
it’s a waste of time you do start
questioning if it’s even worth the
trouble because you know I’ve had people
tell me oh I don’t want to go
something like that because the way it
makes you feel just doesn’t last and
over the years I’ve come to the
conclusion well you know what breakfast
didn’t last either right and we need to
get over the notion that it has to be a
one moment that’s going to change
everything although those moments do
happen I like to compare it with like a
combination lock that has say it’s one
of those kinds that takes about five or
six different pieces the tumblers have
to fall into place one at a time and I
look back and I remember all the things
that I learned over the years and at
each event I learned something new at
each event it was like one of those
tumblers falling into place
and eventually it happened for me at a
point where I was ready to just throw in
the towel and say this is the last one
I’ll ever go to when that last tumbler
fell into place gratefully the timing is
a coincidence but I went to the very end
of all I could handle on my own trusting
that if the answers don’t come here and
now then I’m just gonna have to figure
out how to be happy the way things are
even if nothing ever changes because I
knew what I needed to be doing but I was
having a hard time figuring out why I
wasn’t doing him just like your name and
so you know it was at that event that
the final tumbler fell into place the
lights turned on and I suddenly saw
everything that we had learned over the
years in a whole new light and it became
the catalyst for the change suddenly I
did start behaving differently without
the effort that it required that it
tooks prior all of a sudden there was a
shift inside of me that said this is my
new me and I am being different and then
the results were different it was all
very simple but it took a long time to
get each of those tumblers into place
and so I think it’s really important
number one to be willing to continue
studying continuing your education and
trusting that the right pieces are going
to fall into place at the right time and
literally two people are going to sit in
an event and each of them take different
notes because of who they are where
they’re at the questions that they have
already formulated in their mind and
even if you’re to go back to the same
another time you’re a different person
you’re gonna get something different out
of it and it’s not just a manner it’s
the books you read it’s the mentors you
listen to it’s all of this and so I
think that there’s so much to be gained
from trusting in the process and
persisting that’s part of what I heard
from you Leslie I think you have to go
just a little farther than you think you
can exactly and those are frustrating
sometimes yeah I get mad about that well
by definition you’re going beyond your
comfort zone yeah and that’s a very
difficult thing to get yourself to do
I’ve thought a lot about this particular
phrase and it’s become kind of a theme
for some of the coaching that I’m doing
and it’s why do I do what I do when I
know what I know and I think that every
one of us if you’ll just be honest with
yourself you know things that you’re not
applying and I think that’s true at any
level that you already know some things
that you could do to improve your life
and I joke around about this sometimes
in the seminars that I do and I
challenge the attendees I tell them okay
if I were to send you out there in the
next half-hour could you find some way
to make your life worse it gets a
chuckle every time because they weren’t
thinking along those lines but as soon
as I suggest that to them oh yeah they
can come up with a dozen things that
would for sure make their life worse and
they can do it with your heart no not at
all but to change that the other
direction now I can ask you could you go
out there in the next half-hour and do
something that would make your life
better well they can come up with those
answers – mm-hmm so why are we doing the
things that we know and that’s the best
the purpose of this brain trust today
well one thing I can start us off with
is the answer isn’t gonna come like most
people are seeking what kind of answer
they’re seeking they’re seeking a quick
solution to this a three-step program or
you know an answer that makes
to them right now and that is why people
end up spending so much time and energy
looking for what some some authors have
called magic dust their people are
seeking this knowledge and I can tell
you the pursuit of success is not an
intellectual pursuit alone however it’s
a lot easier to accept that that if I
can just get these pieces of this puzzle
fit together in my brain all this other
stuffs gonna get fixed so you got to
focus in on this word this do word this
action word because here’s the challenge
and there’s a lot of success books a lot
of success seminars and I applaud the
majority of them they’ve been a great
part of my life however some of them
avoid this part of the conversation this
is the hard part this is the hard part
and the reason it gets avoided is
because it’s not marketable you can’t
you’re not gonna sell a book right now
in today’s world that says work your
hind off I’ll give this PG work hard and
we show she work hard and have success
yeah now I would probably buy that book
because I would be interested in the
truth but it’s a lot easier to put a
book out there that says the one secret
the one little piece you’ve been missing
here it is and it isn’t due it’s
knowledge you get this click in your
brain it’s all over no it’s just power
right yeah knowledge is power and that
is definitely a part of it I don’t ever
want to put out the picture that you
know let’s forget about the knowledge
the intellectual pursuit here and just
skip over and start taking action for no
reason well that’d be like moving rocks
in your backyard yeah let’s move a rock
to this side and then let’s move to this
side of the back it’s like Bill Cosby
makes fun of his little daughter who is
the dogs are fallin around saying oh
she’s going over this way
oh now she’s gonna go over this way and
put the water over here isn’t this fun
now we’re gonna go over here put the
water in that’s kind of what it’s like
doing that without
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purpose radio calm
I tell you what we’re going to start
leaving the mics on during the Lesley I
don’t know if you heard any of that all
I heard was laughter I’m like what am I
missing
oh boy well you know what I was having a
chat with one of my friends just
yesterday who was talking about all of
these multi-level marketing companies
that are out there and he’s tried a
number of them and many of us have you
know especially if you’re
entrepreneurial minded you may have
tried these things before and he was
saying you know the thing that bugs me
the most about this is that they’re all
out there trying to sell magic goo and
you were talking about magic dust well
this is magic goo right you can drink it
and it’ll cure cancer and you can
lubricate your car and you can wash your
dog you know does everything right as
you were talking Shanna is thinking you
know how about magic do instead of magic
goo you know can i interject on the with
a work topic I think there are a lot of
listeners who are not afraid of work I
think back to all the work that my
husband I put into trying to create a
different life for ourselves I mean
literally round-the-clock odd hours
burning the candle at both ends like for
my book it’s the dog that chasing the
rabbit and very few people saw or at it
and thought we were nut and the thing
that was the most frustrating to me is
that the work wasn’t producing results
for us that was where the need for the
education came in to help us understand
how to do effective work we weren’t
afraid of the work and I think most
people aren’t afraid to do the work but
they get frustrated when they do the
work and they don’t get the results they
want which takes this to a whole
different level it’s more than just why
do I do what I do when I know what I
know or why don’t I do what I know I
should do I know what I know but what
about why do I do what I do and get the
results that aren’t what I expect and
the point I want to make on this is the
thing I learned is that there’s a piece
of Si is inherently designed to keep us
safe it’s the part of us that keeps our
heart beating all day long it’s the part
of us that keeps us breathing through
the night I mean if you were to
consciously have to
find yourself to beat that heart of
yours how long would you have lasted on
this planet you know there is a piece of
us that is designed to keep us safe and
it’s also the piece of us that has an
image of who we are and what we’re
entitled to and so when we do work to
accomplish something that is contrary to
what that inside belief
looks like the part of us that keeps a
safe that doesn’t want status quo to
change is going to have an influence on
the result no matter how much work we
put and so it’s so important to put the
pieces together the work and the
understanding on how to change that part
of us that wants to keep us safe and
it’s not there to sabotage us it’s just
trying to keep us safe and what safe
means to me and any one of us is change
is not always safe what I experience now
yeah I may not like it but it’s the
devil I know you know less so that makes
me think of two things one concerning do
and one concerning the knowledge
concerning the work somebody that has a
challenge getting to work and I know a
few of these individuals personally some
of them come through my coaching
programs where they do know what to do
they know what they need to do and it
just becomes this matter of I just can’t
get in the habit of it I got a higher an
exercise coach I got a higher you know
somebody to keep me accountable and
there’s value in that and having people
that help you stay accountable however
if you look at the root cause of that
person why can’t they get it done why
can’t they stick to it one thing I found
is they haven’t counted the cost of what
they’re doing they haven’t taken a
moment to step back it’ll actually for
me personally it’s more than a moment
it’s a period of my life where if I’m
gonna take on something I need to count
the cost of that and the principle of
counting the cost is it’s taught in the
scriptures it’s taught in the lessons of
some of the most successful people in
the world but to actually sit back and
say am I willing to do what it takes to
make this happen that mental process
doesn’t happen quite often for some
people because they would do what’s
exciting about it they see I want that
yeah that looks great I want to
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